I just did a bit of math since when FG reduced the overall “quality” of items you find in chests … or raised the upper/bottom limits or whatevver.
More or less, if one is quite active, one can obtain over 3.000 green items a month (without gems) - buying the 24 daily chests for gold, the ones from daily time bonus, war ones, and random items from itacha and map fights for thropies/gold for the daily chests - in my case it’s about 3100-3200 a month more or less.
Now, considering the importance of refining nowday, and the huge amount of time and resources that goes into the process … in certain steps of the procedure it’s quite essential to start from a good base item. Just the problem is, we really don’t find them any longer. And I’m talking of just greens, as the quality of other color items one obtain from chests is laughable really - even cursed items, once source of decent/great base items - have been nerfed to frustration.
Grinding is at base of most games day-to-day activity … it’s a boring essential procedure that makes you enjoy the funnier fights part. But if the rewards you get from grinding are basically null, it just leads to frustration.
In the last couple of months, while trying to fetch some good green shields for the gatekeeper, I’ve obtain about … 20/30 items with a perk value around 44k ish - that for a level 150 is more or less the minimum of decency for considering refine (with bitter taste) and about 5 items in the higher 45k to 46k (of course with items or perks I didn’t need but that’s another matter) - the 47-48k ones have vanished from my range since ages.
That on about 6.300 items collected.
Which leaves me currently with about 0.32% chance to get an half-decent item and a 0.08% to get a great one … then, to that, have to consider the chance of what hero/slot/perk it will be and what you wish it to be, and then, if all went well, you can start the whole 1-2 months long force/refine process.
All this to say, grinding is ok. Not having right away what you want and having to work for it is ok.
But at the moment the items quality randomness has been taken so damn low that - at least for me - is well into frustration and well out of fun.
Just my opinion, you should revise some of those random parameters.