Can we have more planned balancing changes topics?

The posts on ‘planned balancing changes’ seem to have quiet down. Can we have more of these please? It gives us a little more opportunity to communicate with the developers somewhat.

Maybe they don’t have anything that is planned to be balanced. If we, as a community, come up with a list of things that seem to need a little balancing. Maybe it’ll catch flare’s eye and they’ll make a discussion about it

C’mon we repeat since version 3.0 what its going wrong and why the game is so much unbalanced. I think i must once again repeat myself here. i have show a lots of video of myself soloying base and show at which point the game is broken. close 2 years they know all the complain. So no excuse here. about they have nothing to do about balancing. They have a huge rework about balancing to do

1.Pals are OP : Just with Tammy. A player level 1 until 90 can soloying any base full boosted same with Pro boost alone without the 3rd spells and 3rd units and without summon 1 troop. Just alone.

Here a video of myself soloying base with nothing. full boosted with Pro boost. Should this happen? Hell no this should not happen

2.Guardians are OP : Just the pal have bring a huge unbalance in the game in Offense/Defense. Now the add of the Guardians in 4.5.0 have broke the entire game. So now level 1 until 90 just have to use Tammy and Donkey and bingo 100% success with nothing

Why you think its totally dead? in range of Trophy 1 to 3000? all new players quit after see at which point the game is broken

Tomorrow restart a new account. You will see by your own how soloing is so much easy and and how at which point the game is dead there.I remember before 3.0 come out how impossible was to soloing any base. Same at level 20. Same the best players was not able to soloing. i remember unlock 3rd units and 3rd spells was necessary at around level 20. Now same at 90 you can have 2 spells and 2 units is enough

3.Too much Boosts : the game was ok when there is only Elite Boost and War Boosts. Now Pro Boost and Conquest Boosts have bring a another broken unbalance.

RR2 is so much broken I don’t see much how flare can fix all the mess they have do since 2 years

Only when you reach level 100 the game start to be ok. Same pal + guardian are not enough to beat some base. However all below is just a easy walk in the park. Same blinded person can soloing any base at the point there is no more defense

So if someone said there is nothing to do about balancing. Restart a new account and see by yourself how RR2 is broken

like OR they add stuffs,they up level of defense and building, they change stats of units,etc… without test it by themself. Like many have said in the past. The problem is they do all their test and I remember they have said it themself on top 10 bases. So don’t ask why level 1 to 100 is broken at this point

@Warriornator, are you going to create another account? Multiple/share accounts is against “Terms of Service”.

Your throne room has to reach a determined level to have a particular pal. Your king must reach level 20 before having guardians. 

Why I will want a another account?. My level 100 account is ok like he is. No there is no cap in throme room to have any pal

you can have irmgard at level 30 and destroy all without any effort. Level 20 for guardians is a joke. You should unlock Guardians at level 100 and not below. Too much OP. At least at same moment than the quest at level 80. for me make more sense. Its will be a huge beautiful reward player will gain

Yes there is a cap in throne room I think it’s 3 but still…

guardians are really op I can’t understand why people want them stronger,

I agree guardians should be obtainable later but with phebe roaming in the low trophies ranges it’s not feasible, because there don’t exist any other counter

Phoebe the famous Phoebe a another broken unbalance for low level player. A pain they must suffer


I’ve also seen videos on FB where high level players are able to defeat high level bases solo using the right gear setup. But not everyone can do it, otherwise my attack history would be filled with solo raid results. It would be unbalanced if all players can do this from king level 1 to level 130 on all bases.  But its not the case.


Your examples show your account defeating low level players that are worth 26 medals. Not sure how valid those are as an example of unbalanced play. At level 72, my estimate is that the medal count should be 350-450. (and that might be too low an estimate for some)

But versus 26 medals, that’s like a 3rd grader beating a Kindergarten kid at checkers and saying the game is unbalanced.

This is a game of attack, from king levels 1-80, it should be easy to attack and win.  That is what makes the game fun and not about defense, defense, defense. As players progress and eventually reach both higher kings levels and trophy count (simultaneously), the game will become more balanced between the various boosts (elite/war/pro/conquest), pals, guardians and now making your defense harder is a requirement to keep your trophy number at specific range. This would also account for being in an alliance and having some boosts to help keep improve your defense as these are the mechanics of the game.  If you are not in an alliance, just about anyone can attack and win regardless of your king level.  

In my estimation, at king level 70, you would be around 2800, at king level 80, 3300 king level 90, in the 3500 trophy range and by king level 100, somewhere close to 4000. 

If players choose to artificially keep their trophies low (compared to what their king level should indicate) then the mechanics of the game are skewed by the player, not by the game. Matchmaker is designed to find your opponent based on trophy count, not king level.  


Keep in mind that the Beast will usually meet the king at a designed choke point in the defense.  Change this meeting location with the beast and the results will differ.

Just about every Beast is weak to piercing.  Phoebe is no exception to this rule and there are ways to defeat Phoebe at any level. When Phoebe is being attacked it cannot cast blessing and armageddon.  If you use KOW (knight, orge, wolf) then push phoebe into your army of knights and watch it disappear.  If Phoebe triggers blessing and armageddon, then push phoebe with the king away from the blessing and into your army. 

Another factor is when an enemy wolf howls and causes phoebe to become enraged.  When this happens, learning to adjust and manage this is key.  Either eliminate the enemy wolf with a spell prior to a howl being triggered or push phoebe back away from the army until the rage effect is over. Learning how to manage this section of the raid is just part of the experience of playing the game more and more.  Before you meet the beast, make sure you have all your spells ready or they are about to be ready.  Maybe use scream to pull back and meet the Beast on your terms and not at the designed choke point in the defense. Guardian ready?  Maybe use donkey to race ahead and trigger phoebe to cast the spells, then push it away from blessing and into your army.  Plenty of possibilities out there to defeat the beast.  The key to winning the raid is in the smallest of details.  Sometimes changing that one small event or keeping that event from happening is the difference between winning and losing.

I have no clue if you was there in 2015 but with your answer I will conclude you was not there otherwise you will have agree with me. Not much can agree with me because no much veteran who have play since 2014 or 2015 still in this game. Maybe some but not much.

My video show if you have look the second one correctly I have soloing a base full boosted with Pro boost. Look the first battle. If you was there before 3.0 you should know whatever the base 34 medals or whatever don’t matter that was just impossible to soloing base at all. At level 10,20 or 60. that was just impossible. If you remember maybe you have forgot not me. 3rd units and 3rd spells was obligatory at level 20. that was impossible to win if you have not unlock both.I remember because I have watch Opelle video showing the importance of this when i have start for the first time. Same him and other veteran have said soloing was impossible

probably like all veteran you have stay too much longer at level 130 and forgot what the game look like in low level. I will answer like i always did tomorrow restart the game at 0 with a new account and look by yourself what I means. You will be able to defeat any base same if they are totally full boosted same with Conquest and Pro boosts

i am the only here to see clearly how unbalanced the game is now because I have restart a new account after 3.0. and because I have play this game in 2015 before 3.0 I remember the difference. i am the only one crazy enough to have restart 3 times the game. Badly no one can support my post here.

So if you think like all the others this game is well balanced its you and if you don’t want to see and believe the evidence straight your eyes and hide it in the sand like Flare love to do since 5 years. its up to you. I know this game is totally broken for level 1-90

If you look carefully my video you will see the tower I have face was not level 1 tower but level 10 towers. That was impossible before 3.0. Same with maxed Heal spells that was impossible to soloing any base. Now its a joke and soloing its possible same with nothing. Same beat level 80 with just 1 spell and 1 unit is too much easy because Pal and Guardian have broken the game. 3rd unit and 3rd spell are now just optional. there are no more necessary

Why you think between 1 and 4000 the games is dead? player stop playing it. No defense can push back anyone. No Phoebe is not a bad excuse to do nothing

I have been playing this game since late 2014.  So I don’t know why you keep posting about if you were there back in the day and saying that otherwise players will agree with your viewpoint.  I honestly don’t agree with your viewpoint and it’s false pretense to assume that people do.  

All the veterans I know that have played the game since 2014/2015 are either in a top 20 ranked alliance as leaders and generals or relaxing in a lower ranked alliance so they can play for fun. But those are just the people I know. 

That is a funny comment because I just reached king level 130 this January after spending most 2018 somewhere between levels 122 to 127 as I was only raiding during war time.  But to tell someone that you don’t remember what it was like back in the day (it’s only been 68 days since level 130, so my memory is still pretty good) , once again it’s your assumption and it’s false pretense to assume that someone doesn’t remember. I started in low level alliances, and progressed through the alliance ranks and made my way to top 10 alliances (not top 5 since I find that just too stressful for my taste). I’ve been a soldier/a general/a leader of both successful and failed alliances. So I’ve seen it. Been there done that. Lived it. And now give back by occasionally helping out lower level alliances (with donations/ninja/conquest/wars) as they go through the same growing pains of team building. Just watching players give it their all to make their alliance the best, to help grow the alliance and improve their account is the focal point of the the game. Otherwise why keep playing?

You say it is broken for level 1-90.  That is your opinion.

I don’t think it is.  It’s just different for new players playing level 1-90 than it was for anyone that had played levels 1-90 three to fours years ago. 

But I have to say that your view point is based on the fact that after years of playing, everything that you have learned in regards to the mechanics of the game:

  • When exactly to cast a spell
  • Where to position your king for maximum spell damage
  • When to use scream and when not to
  • Use scream to quickly strike down a tower
  • When to fall back with your king just to heal and avoid death
  • Watching Tammy’s heal bar fill up just to know when to charge forward

 All of that knowledge was gained after playing this game for such a long time.  But if this was a new player, would they be able to raid solo knowing these same actions?

I will say that this game has changed. There is no doubt about that. But these changes were made to provide players with a variety of game play options.  

In my opinion, the game had to change in order to survive as it had to evolve for all levels.  But that is with the premise that the players and their kings will evolve with it as well.   

Not stay repeat levels 1-90 over and over again and expect the same game play experience today as it was years ago. 

It’s like when I played StarCraft. Awesome game on release.  It cost me a few years of college but it was fun to play. Wait too long to release a new version and players will move on to another game. Sometimes change is needed.

You remember me Dumspter in OR section who answer with full on nonsense stuffs each day. Don’t answer if its for answer like this. No thanks

The first half of your post is off topic and full of nonsense at all and not related with my post. I have said you have stay too much longer in level 130 its a way to means you have stay too much in high level for 5 years in over 4500+ trophy. I guess its better for everyone if you stay there anyway. Continue to ignore what going on in lower level 

I have grow with the best in the game with Neverangelic and others from Bladestorm and I have join for a short time Opelle in God of Destiny and many more. So I think they know better than you what was possible to do and what was not possible to do in the past. They have build their own website with tricks and all. So I have learn from the best in the past

is not my opinion its a fact but like i have said if you are too much blinded to accept it so be it then. Continue to be at level 127+ in top alliance or whatever and continue to ignore what going on outside of your comfort zone. Some of you like it stay there then stay there. Continue not see what going on wrong in this game

Nothing have to do with learning the mechanics over years. Full of nonsense. its not because I know better the game that is why I play better. Nothing have change in my way to play. That happen I still continue to fail and die on Snake tower or else like I did 4 years ago. i repeat the same mistake again

I will stop arguing with you. I have never see a stubborn person who refuse to see the reality in face. Everyone said the game is broken. A lots of topic has been created since 3.0. Its not my fault if you come on the forum 1 time per year and miss 90% of them. Maybe if you will come more often maybe you will learn some stuffs about this game. Stop to think that I am alone. A lots of person here see the same thing like me just the difference its me its about 1-90 and others much more about level 120-130

Anyway you like to believe RR2 is ok and full healthy and everything its fine. You remember me of Cromka who have repeat since many years RR2 don’t need any change and nothing and that the game is 100% correct like he is.

the way you answer and the way how much blinded you are remember me why I refuse to go in top and why I refuse to up over 4000 trophy. I don’t want to become like you and ignore all around. I like to take care of low player. I like to take care of what going on in low and medium range. its the main reason I have restarted a new account to see what going on wrong will all the change

with your answer I guess I must thank you to remember me to never go in top. i am not interested to become like you. No offense.

PS : Nevermind probably i will stop save RR2 after all. People are stubborn here to think RR2 is so much healthy when its not. I have give and others have give so much proof about how RR2 is broken and how RR2 dying and are in bad shape.That why I focus more on OR. At least there people are happy and like what I did for them. I have restart their too and I have change the gameplay for low and medium player to have a better experience. Many still thanks me for what I do and the time I pass to change the game. Not like here

If people like it broken like this fine. I cannot do anything about it

Always player who answer like you who come on forum 1 time per year and believe RR2 is healthy because the last time you have come you have read just positive topic. Since 3.0 and 4.0 and 4.5.0 people are far to be happy with the game. continue to come 1 time per year and ignore everything that happen.

What i can add after this? the next time you will come is maybe in 2020. A lots of stuffs will happen during this time


And? changing the place of choke point don’t changes anything, I think you don’t understand that low players have not high lvl enough “WOK” to deal with the beast. And I don’t even speak about moral( like 5-8k). The only choice is to use low moral units. This technic to push phebe in low moral units will just wipe out your army. The king will already be 1/2 life with just 1 cast of armaggedon… Solution? Yea gardian because it give temporay imunity with enough damage(pal + gardian) to take it out. Wolf +phebe low player = instant death… Sol? NONE! So Gardians are indispensable for low lvl kings, only solution for them… Later when they get stronger there are other solutions…

That just says it all.  Full of it and thinks they know all.  Just shows the complete disregard you have for other opinions with that type of response.

I’ve never heard of Neverangelic and Bladestorm. Nothing against those alliances but does it even matter or do I care?  Not in the least bit. 

oPelle was a great raider.  But did he also claim to know EVERYTHING about the game and it all and dismiss others opinions? Maybe you should have learned some humility instead of name dropping and posting the way you do.

Boy, Cromka’s name comes up in all sorts of posts…  Maybe I can go ask him for his opinion… LOL


Hmmm… Focus is not OR its a lot more negative than that.


I don’t know.  Maybe you can explain the whole story to validate your posts about this horrible broken game that we play.

Well, apparently I know nothing about game play at low levels because I only know how to play at level 130.  


Why don’t you ask others that are so much more   1Capture.PNG  than I am and have them provide you a solution? 

Sorry, I’ve done my one post for this year.  I’ll come back next year to post the answer because that’s what i do.

If you follow the theme here, just quit playing. The game is broken. The game is broken. The game is broken. 

Or get someone to give you an account above level 90, because that’s when the game is not broken.

Now I remember why I never bothered with the forums in years past.  Everyone here already knows it all.  

Thank you. I understand now where come from all of this nonsense. You don’t have play since 2014. If you have do you will know who is NeverAngelic. Every veteran know Neverangelic. The leader of Bladestorm. So you said you didn’t know him just proof you lie since the beginning and you don’t have play this game before 3.0. That why you still continue believe this game is balanced and full healthy and the game its ok like it is. Its like said you didn’t know Opelle when close everyone know him with the wiki and all

No need to go further in this case. I will speak and exchange about people who know the game before 3.0 and after 3.0

if you have really play since 2014. You should know him and what he have done in RR2 like this blog every veteran know this :

the fact you ignore him prove you don’t have play this game in the past. So you have no clue what the game look like before

Well i don’t understand why you are angry?

The only solution is gardians in low player Its a fact…

I challenge everyone one the forum to give another solution! So?

Most of “classical” solution i have seen won’t work.

Use shield? Shield + low player + phebe… No just no

High moral combo… don’t even think about it…

Monk? they don’t even have arbalaster…

Join alliance with good boost? Most of people don’t want low lvl players with low AT in theirs so NO.

Ah yea there is the pro boost ascension archer that could work, but can a low lvl player join a good alliance? Not really likely…

The only solution IS gardian.

By the way sorrry Lacuna this was not meant to be on this tread?

no its ok phoebe its a part of balancing subject so its ok

Phoebe its a big problem for low player. Of course if a level 20 or 30 meet Phoebe because Phoebe is everywhere. Can be very annoying to always die

i don’t know what should be the solution in this case. I admit its a huge problem.

for Pals and Guardians unlock them at 80 and not before. At least the game will be more balanced this way. the majority of problem will be solve. The game will look like before 3.0. Really easy to fix the problem of unbalance. Just lock Pals and guardians function until 80. Player will be more happy when reach level 80 to have Pals,Guardians and the quest with 500 gems I think. More satisfaction to reach 80. they will feel they have accomplish something awesome

About Phoebe no clue. If some have some idea

Anyway maybe its not important after all I don’t know if the game don’t look like before 3.0. Maybe I have wrong. Maybe that help new player more than before I don’t know. Same if the King is too much OP

i guess we must relax and enjoy the game like is it :slight_smile: After its just a game. Cannot be perfect I guess

@Warriornator @Keith guys plz stay on topic. Its not a phoebe only topic. Also stop comparing OR nd RR2.